BackDraft in the house ......

I never thought that I would be involved in a ex-witch forum but here I am. Like to give a shout out to Anita, whom I know from CARM ..... Hi Anita. The reason I am here is for prayer support and advice. It seems that I have became involved in some sort of mystical mind control that has gotten out of hand. VOICES ........ and such. I have always been a "spiritual person" but within the last couple of years became involved in meditation.

I have had a lot of Christians praying and decided to cast a wider net.

In any event this has gotten WAY out of hand, and I have become in need of prayer.

Please pray and offer any advice as you see fit.

Anita, you tired to warn me about the meditation thing being a doorway. I should have listened to you.

BackDraft

howdy BD.
yeppers, Anita is definitely worth listening to.

I'll pray for you and bring the advice of drawing closer to Jesus
with every waking moment. one step at a time.

Psalm 1 is a good beginning as is some good worship music.


mark

Hi Backdraft. I tend to specialize in the sort of thing you're talking about (take a look at my intro thread - Bad Pennies - in this folder for an overview), so if you want I'm at your service.

Mark, if Backdraft wishes perhaps a private folder would be a good idea?

Hey BD - pleasant surprise to see you here at ExWitch. I havnt haunted CARM for ages but have sometimes wondered how you and some of the other more interesting members have been. Dont beat yourself up too much about the meditation thing hey...God is certainly gracious and extends His hand of care to all those that desire it.

A private folder can be created if you want...just request it.

Ill be praying for you mate!

HI Anita and be blessed!!

I'd like to thank you and everyone else that is praying for me.

How have you been? As for myself things are getting better, keep praying.

Thanks again to all that have been praying ...... no small thing to care for people.

BD

Ive been good; tired, busy, at times grouchy but generally good Im going through a re-evaluation time in my life right now, I hope hubby and I make the right decisions...

I'll be praying for you and yours.

Anita keep praying ....... I feel like I am being forced down this road of darkness that I do NOT want any part of. Part of me wants to believe that their is a purpose in it, dealing with the dark side of this house ........ but I just want OUT.

So much deception and trickery ......

Wondering what happened to the light?

BD

Really? Who or what is forcing you to do something you dont want to do Backdraft?

The Light is where you left Him.
Turn around and take care of the first things.
If you feel you must meditate, do it scripturally. ie. meditate upon God's Word.
Again, Psalm 1 is a good place to start.

Mark

Heh - having been down that road, willingly, I know what you mean. It's not so much deception and trickery, but rather the truth.....from one point of view. However, I've seen the end of that path, the result of it - no loyalty, no love, no care for anything or anyone but one's self. Tis not a place I ever wanted to be, but it was fully illustrated to me.

The irony though, and the reason I laugh, is that the light you speak of never left. It and he were always there, just waiting for me to realize it and to choose it.

So the point of this rambling is BD, no one can force you to choose the darkness. Nothing can make that choice for you. You and you alone have to choose one way or the other. Certainly it can seem like you have no choice, but that is the real deception - we always have a choice, because in the end we are free.

Be what you will.

Nice reply ......... I have been shown the same things through this; WE HAVE CHOICE!! REAL CHOICE .......... this seems to be what is being establishing within myself. The idea that I have ONGOING choice.

Not so easy is it ......... We are all a mixture ...... not just light or darkness.

Thanks for your comments .....

BD

Dealing with stuff one did not realize was there can be difficult. I've been shown a lot about "sin in me" (the NOUN). Rom 6 -8 type stuff .... sin in the members. "Forcing" might not be the best choice of words. HOWEVER, the NOUN SIN, INFLUENCING me and seeking to have it's way in me, is more in line with what is happening.

I never really put much stock in how I choose to live my life on a daily basis. What are you garnering to yourself type stuff. WHAT am I choosing DAILY? Choice ........ we all make them and we are all influenced concerning them.

Sin (the noun) is a very real influence ....... BUT ........... we still have choice.

BD

Yup got you clearly - thanks for clarifying.

I think you are going to be fine in this Backdraft. Its tough, but as you say important we all need to learn about choice. One can feel quite vulnerable when dealing with this stuff. Hang in there.

...Nightmare, you continue to surprise me with some of your thoughts and advice I liked your recent post to Backdraft....

No prob, tis the least I can do.

As to choice being ongoing, tis always the case while one is alive (and perhaps afterward as well, who knows) - that's part of the point though I would think.

Me, I'm a creature of darkness - I admit it, at times I revel in it. But, I choose to fight for the light.



Indeed! It's easy to think of these choices as being major events, and thus fall into the trap of believing that they are only major events. In reality, the little choices we make every day makes us who we are far more than the big choices do, in most cases at least.

Heh, glad to please Anita

I like your insight Nightmare; light darkness / choices. I agree that small choices do help form us more then the big ones. How does that saying go? The difference between a person that has their "stuff" in a pile and a person that does not is really small. Tending to the garden is a matter of tending to the garden so to speak. If tends to the garden continually THEN it's maintenance becomes easier as time goes on.

Small choices indeed .........

Thanks for your comments ......

No prob - glad to be of some help (if indeed I was).

The Lord uses many, many surprising events to bring us to an end of ourself, and a reliance upon Him. Even in the case of evil, nothing may happen to us that is not allowed by Him, and in all things He is working for our good. (see Rm.8.28) All things.
Recently, like within the last year, I thought I was losing my mind. The last stronghold of my pride was my intellect, so if that is not functioning correctly, what do you have left? In my case, just about nothing. But, in losing everything, all His blows have been kindness.
One day, I heard a voice: 'Lean not on thine own uderstanding.' As I began to consider this, with all its ramifications, my mind cleared. And I have not turned back. I only have some short term memory issues now, which may be the result of too much reliance on caffeine.
The key is to trust in His ability to lead you, not in your ability to follow. A dead man has no rights, and he doesn't reason or talk back. The trick is to be willing to let Him do your part as well--this doesn't seem right to us, it seems as though there is something we can do, must do, but in the end all He wants is to be your All in All. You find yourself by losing yourself.
Of course, while it is simple, it's not easy. We do well for awhile, but then we find one day we are tenaciously holding on to ourself and what we want to do, not even stopping to listen or to begin yielding to him.
The good news is, it's always easy to come back. The Lord is always ready for you to stop beating yourself up and admit that He's the only one who can solve your problems and get out of your situation.